Does suffering lead one to Spiritual path? – Spiritual Enlightenment Helpdesk

Date: Jan 7, 2021

Seeker:

Hello,

I was going through rough time for various reason. I watched some Sadhguru videos and gotten into depression zone. It was really serious. I found out about your channel which helped me primarily. Thanks a lot. I am also a seeker. Want to know more about enlightenment. Thanks a ton again.

Date: Jan 7, 2021

My reply:

Dear friend,

I am glad to know that you found my content helpful. Can you tell me more about the depression you went through after watching Sadhguru’s videos?


I do Live sessions on Youtube everyday, usually in the morning after 10 AM. You can watch the previous videos as well as the future Live sessions to get more clarity. Please tell me more about your journey, how you came to the spiritual path etc so that I can give you more personalized suggestions.


At the moment, my primary source of income is the donations I receive from seekers. If you want to support me, you can find the options to donate here: https://nellaishanmugam.wordpress.com/donate/

Regards,

Shanmugam P

Date: Jan 8, 2021

Seeker:

Hi Shanmugam,


Thank you for your email. Sure I will provide some donation. I had been through some weird experiences of life and in this pandemic it makes people more isolated than ever. So I thought to get help through some spiritual videos. I started feeling better.I came to know about spiritual enlightenment. It was confusing and overwhelming at the beginning, then I saw in a video Sadhguru was  saying about enlightenment. You know what he said actually. It put me into depression zone. 

Currently I am very weird state of mind. Thinking to take any psychiatric help. Not sure. I found out your videos. Thanks a lot to you. It was a great help. I am also thinking to posh all these search for sometimes. Share something from your experience if possible.
Have a great day.

Date: Jan 8, 2021

My Reply:

Dear friend,

Thank you for sharing. I hope you will feel better soon. You are probably feeling that way because of the novelty of the concept and you will soon get used to it. Feel free to explore other videos of mine in Youtube and my blog articles.
You are welcome to share anything if you want and I am ready to offer my suggestions based on my experience.

But if the subject of spirituality is actually bothering you too much, you can certainly take a break and forget about the whole thing for a few days. 

Regards,

Shanmugam P

Date: Jan 9, 2021

Seeker:

Hello,

Thanks for the help. I feel that until a person get into suffering he/she will be ignorant of spirituality. 

I have couple of question:
What is the purpose of this life? Can we really define enlightenment as a predefined benchmark(what I feel like it’s infinite so we can never get to know everything) or it’s a perspective from one person to other?

I made some donation as well.


Thanks a lot.
Best Regards,

Date: Jan 9, 2021

My reply:

Dear friend,

Thanks a lot for the donation.


Yes, it is true that suffering in life drives one towards spirituality; that is one reason why there is suffering in the first place.


Absolutely speaking, there is really no purpose in life; it is defined as a game or leela by the divine. But we can also say that the purpose of human life is self-realization or atma jnana, which is the same as spiritual enlightenment. It is because all of the human tendencies naturally drive one towards spiritual path, even though many people do not realize it.


I use the word ‘spiritual enlightenment’ as another word for atma jnana, and traditionally there has been enough agreement on what it really is.  

The point of spiritual enlightenment is not to know everything; you can’ know everything. It ends the existential suffering caused by the feeling of separation. It is like a weight that pulls one down and it is possible to liberate from it. You will know how much liberating and blissful it is once you actually find it.


Regards,

Shanmugam P

Date: Jan 10, 2021

Seeker:

Hello,


Thanks for the beautiful insight. I like the way you describe it.  Maybe the question of who am I will lead to enlightenment if I am not wrong. 
One last question roaming around my mind is you found your true self. Does that mean your self discovery ends there or it’s just the starting point?


Best Regards,

Date: Jan 2021

My reply:

Dear friend,

If you are talking about ‘self-discovery’, then I have discovered the nature of the limited self and its non-existence. I have realized myself as the whole, the infinity or the Self with capital ‘S’. So, the journey as an individual has ended for me.


But it still in a way continues in another dimension. The growth and evolution is still possible, because I can still refine my behaviour, learn new skills etc; For an onlooker, I am still the same old Shanmugam and I still have to be consistent as much as I can to that image. (This was actually a challenge for me in the beginning but I got used to it. I couldn’t see myself as a person with a continuity from yesterday; I totally forgot about that fact.)


Also, there is still a curiosity to see how things will turn out. I am learning the after effects of enlightenment myself as I see how I am driven to do things, how things around me get influenced because of my presence etc. It is a different kind of evolution. It is no longer a journey towards a fulfillment in the future. It is no longer about hopes and dreams; if I compare this life to how it was 6 years before, I must say that I am living in heaven.

Regards,

Shanmugam P

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